Deepvision Interview with Tonya and Alexandrah
by Scott Pausal aka Rubox
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Deepvision: How did you guys get in the group?
Tonya: I moved from Ithica, NY. Not too long from moving
down here, I met Divinci and Swam at Bodhisattva where Swam and Charles
were having an open mic event there. I started hanging out with them and
then they started having meetings at the shop. I started to get more involved
with that. They invited me to go to Chicago with them and that’s
when I met Alexandrah.. As soon as we met, just felt like we were family
and Alex moved down to Orlando because she really missed us. As soon as
she moved down, that’s when it started. I wasn’t really gonna
be a part of it because it wasn’t even thought of. It was just them
and them doing their thing. Then Alex was singing something in the bathroom
which sounded like she was singing ‘me oh my’. That is what
I thought she was singing and she like that idea, and then we recorded.
I then recorded my own song and that is how I became in the group.
Alexandrah: I've been living in Chicago since 1997. I
met Swam at Columbia College and we became friends instantly. He moved
down here to Orlando. I graduated in 2000 and was teaching at the college
there and he and I were always keeping in constant contact. He started
his group which was every Sunday and then I started my group up in Chicago
which was called New Group. He focused on teaching people in large groups
through meetings and person to person interaction. Mine focused on holding
events which were all ages events and we used to having them in this place
in Chicago at Wicker Park called Square One. It was a 3 floor building
and the bottom and the very top were for performances, food, and massages
while the middle floor was a vegetarian restaurant. The group that I created
was a multimedia event touring group. There were bands, poets, deejays,
singers, graphic artists, massage therapists, and chefs. Absolutely everyone.
What I would do was gather all of my friends. It was ironic because everyone
I knew knew someone who was in every aspect of the arts whether they were
a graphic artist, photographer, videographer, whatever. I got them together
and wanted to throw events where they could showcase their art and make
money by selling their products or just by promoting together. The first
event I got together we had 250 people there just by word of mouth and
pre sale tickets alone. No emails, no flyers. It was amazing. We started
doing that monthly. Then Swam said he was going to bring 8 people to Chicago.
So I set them up with 4 shows in the course of 3 days. One in the afternoon
and 3 show at night while they were there. That is when I met Tonya, Divinci,
Mad ILLs, Lizzie and X. The day that they left, Swam and I were talking
about me moving to Orlando. I was telling them to give me 3 to 4 months
to save money and make sure that I knew what I was doing, which was not
really me because I’m usually someone to do whatever I just feel.
It’s just that moving across the country is something that I never
really done before. The day that I left, I took Tonya, Divinci and Lizzie
to the airport last and on my way home I was thinking, ‘Oh my god,
I have to be around these people’. Just them being up and hanging
around for a couple of days was like knowing them for 30-40 lifetimes.
On my way home I was thinking that I got to get to Orlando as quickly
as possible. In 4 days, I gave away all my stuff and drove down. That
was in 2002. Since then, the fullness of Sol.illaquist of Sound has been
in effect and we have been doing this ever since.
Deepvision: Tonya, what is your ethnicity?
Tonya: I have alot. I’m a mix of Spanish, native
American, black, white, a whole bunch of stuff. But I fell more into the
native American side and Spanish too. Pretty much native American side.
The Native American Indians are into peace of being together as a community
in art and eating together. Though growing up, I never really did feel
that way until I got into the rave community which is very into love and
being together as a community. Finding this family is totally the same
thing. It was just heightened from what I was learning in that type of
culture.
Alexandrah: Because we do what we wanna be doing all
the time,we just naturally flow into the culture. People would call it
a culture, but I believe that is just how life works when you give it
enough respect to tune into its vibes. I don’t think people would
naturally would want to be alone all the time. I understand solitary and
wanting some solitude once in a while but I think that, honestly, when
you are working with music and sound it’s so imperative to have
people with you. The only types of true powerful sound comes from groups
of people. One person, like and opera singer, can break a glass with a
certain note, certain pitch, or certain resonation, and a group of people
together making one collective sound, one collective vibration can build
pyramids.. When you recognize your own individual power, it makes you
want to group up with people because you realize that everyone has the
same power in them and that force together creates….What is impossible
to actually imagine until you experience it. I have imagined all my ideals
in the world, but to actually be going through it with this group, traveling,
meeting so many people around the country is sofar beyond any ideal utopian
imagination that I could ever have. So I know that it is not only crucial
to have people involved, but it’s bigger than just me and I need
other people to be involved. That is what our culture is based on.
Deepvision: Alex, what is your ethnicity?
Alexandrah: Alcerian which is Egyptian and is the culture
of Osiris. Egypt is a Greek term so it...Ausarian. They were conquered,
moved out of Egypt and moved into, what is now what is called Ausaria.
Ausaria is not even a country, but is an area that spans through out the
Middle East which is called the Mesopotamia.
Deepvision: What is the misconception other people get
about your group?
Alexandrah: That we do drugs…..
Tonya: That we say these things but don’t actually
live them.
Alexandrah: That we are just talking a bunch of nonsense.
That we are not actually talking from experience. People think that it’s
almost as if we are preaching because we don’t live it and it’s
too good to be true and we are talking idealistically. They call us philosophers
as opposed to people who live their ideal. You talk to people from other
generations and it can be difficult for them to understand the fact that
when you say I’m going to be doing what I love all the time, I’m
going to be making music. Getting that through to people, making a living
based on my music, by painting, by sculpture, massage therapy, whatever
it may be; they may say “you can’t do that”. You have
to be this, you have to be that. Sometimes what people misconstrue about
us is that one, we do drugs, which we don’t. Two, that we don’t
live the way that we speak, which we do live the way that we speak. Three,
that we’re telling people something that we don’t actually
know is possible, which is completely untrue. The reason that we can speak
about it so strongly is because we live it everyday. We get called hippies
a lot too, and maybe it has something to do with the drug thing….
Tonya: The style….how we want it to be, how we
are living
Alexandrah: That and the social constructs is even….the
vocabulary and communication. People are so afraid to get out of the “box”
that we’re put into or taught to maintain ourselves within that
if you were to step outside they can only have certain terms for you that
basically don’t necessarily mean what they supposed to mean but
at their core mean, we don’t understand what you’re doing.
So, I’m gonna call it this and blow it off or say it’s impossible
or it’s like a dream, it’s idealistic, it’s not real,
but it is.
Deepvision: As far as the message you guys get across,
what exactly is it?
Alexandrah: Knowing your self….
Tonya: and you know that we are all connected…..
Alexandrah: Because once you know yourself, it is impossible
to not know other people. And once you know other people its as though
you become, I don’t want to say bigger or more powerful than other
people, it’s aware, conscious. The main message is know yourself,
because once you know yourself fully, it’s much easier to respect
yourself because you recognize how powerful you are and in doing all these
things yourself you can do them with other people.
Deepvision: What are your influences individually?
Tonya: Jimmy Hendricks, blues, jazz, just music in general.
Hard to really place it because I like all of it and I really got into
the rock movement, raves, jungle music, house music. I didn't get back
into hip-hop music until I started hanging out with Sol.illaquist. I love
all types of music. If it has that soul, if you can feel it, I can't help
listening to it.
Alexandrah: What I recently found out is that the music
that I like isn't just in one genre. I know people say all types. I thought
it was jazz, but it really isn't. I like Billy Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald,
Lauren Hill is on some next level. Fiona Apple, women who sing or can
rhyme a way of writing that can reach through and that can relate to me.
I appreciate eloquence, I appreciate melodies, harmonies, style in general,
rhythm. All those things. Lauren Hill, Jill Scott. All of those "newer
women" who would be typically named, I really enjoy. Who I grew up
with was Fiona Apple in the beginning, Enya, Sade, and then 80's music
I like the Cure, Morrissey, Depeche Mode, U2 and then even deeper like
Henry Mancini and Frank Sinatra. I grew up with an eclectic mix. There
was never really one genre or type of thing. What I really appreciate
is content of lyricism and melodies, harmonies. Something you can move
to. Something that can describe some form of an emotion that I've had.
As long as its meaningful to me and can relate to me, I enjoy. I haven't
found an equation for what I will automatically like, but I've been fortunate
to have been exposed to all types and that I just don't like hip-hop or
that I just don't like R&B. I also grew up with classical; Tchaikovsky,
Bach, Mozart. I played violin for 7 years when I was a kid. Grew up going
to concerts and symphonies so I like sounds that work really well together.
I appreciate it when there are multitude of sounds, instruments, or different
people that are working together to create a sound as though an entire
galaxy as opposed to one separate expression.
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